Really interesting article on FFB

rageshgr

Date: Thursday, 2011-10-27, 3:40 PM | Message # 1

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Check this out! http://www.racedepartment.com/sim-rac....in.html

Now I don't have a FFB so I can't judge it. But the theory makes sense. But I am neither condoning nor opposing his views. Interesting read if you did not know this already smile

Sin

Date: Thursday, 2011-10-27, 5:11 PM | Message # 2

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Yes very interesting - i actually only use 15% FFB as i find this the best for me (in GTR's) ... but i do turn it up to a max of 25% in most of the other cars that i've used .

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Date: Thursday, 2011-10-27, 5:45 PM | Message # 3

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Me too. I used to swear by FFB and said I would never NOT use it. Then I discovered that when you use it, it actually hurts you. Under normal driving, it's good, but if you have to correct an oversteer or being hit, you can't counter steer fast enough with FFB on (even with centering spring turned down), you wind up FIGHTING the FFB and it slows you down. sad

That's why the really high end wheels (Thomas Super wheels etc... in excess of $500 for the wheel) don't even use FFB, they just have a really good spring.

FFB pedals, imo, would be FAR more useful. Too bad I can't justify spending that much on FFB pedals. sad

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rageshgr

Date: Thursday, 2011-10-27, 5:57 PM | Message # 4

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they just have a really good spring.

So it is just a self centering non-FFB wheel? so you can't feel the different forces during understeer and oversteer etc am I right?

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i actually only use 15% FFB as i find this the best for me

But then why do you set forces to 102% in Profiler?

SingleEnginePilot

Date: Thursday, 2011-10-27, 8:32 PM | Message # 5

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Yes, just self centering spring. No force feedback at all. Some have fluid dampeners but still aren't force feedback.

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Date: Thursday, 2011-10-27, 10:03 PM | Message # 6

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Now that you said that, I should reconsider using my wheel, I was reluctant to use it since it does not have FFB. And the fact is , it really does n't give me any feedback. Honestly keyboard gives me more feedback, I don't know why, may be coz I am used to keys. By feedback I don't mean force feedback here. I think I know why. When using keyboard I multi-tap steer(around 3-6 times per second), so the car behaves differently to each tap I give. It will steer a bit more for the same tap if it oversteering etc and I can really feel the resistance to my taps. In this wheel once I turn wheel whether the cars turns or not I don't have much dynamic feedback. And it seems to be responding very slowly too.

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Sin

Date: Thursday, 2011-10-27, 11:49 PM | Message # 7

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But then why do you set forces to 102% in Profiler?

I haven't been using the profiler for about 6 months now , don't ask me why as i have no idea bash

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rageshgr

Date: Friday, 2011-10-28, 1:50 AM | Message # 8

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oh lol, I saw it in your tutorial about setting up wheel smile

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