Oval drafting tutorial
Today i was on GTR RotaSport, Kyoto Oval track
and there was a very good player [MonsieurTueur] who sent me a very good setup for all GTR car, and show me a very usefull video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMi5-_u1lNA

I learned a lot, how to use draft in Oval track

how to make a smooth movement of the steering wheel and hands as in that video

Oval drafting tutorial
Today i was on GTR RotaSport, Kyoto Oval track
and there was a very good player [MonsieurTueur] who sent me a very good setup for all GTR car, and show me a very usefull video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMi5-_u1lNA

I learned a lot, how to use draft in Oval track

Hiromi, when will new AMG vid coming?

now I'm wondering if it is the LFS physics that are off with regard to drafting? or is it just the GTR cars draft differently than a NASCAR car would?

I'm not sure I understand what the vid auther is saying. Is he saying that you keep passing your drafting partners and that keeps your speed up?

Starting out with Nascar racing, I learned long ago that it is much faster if you and your drafting partner(s) stay bumper to bumper (without passing each other all the time). The more cars you have bumper to bumper, the faster you go as a group.

It's next to impossible for a 2 or 3 car group to catch a 5 or 6 car group. And if you're all alone, you'd get lapped within 4 laps or so.

If you keep passing each other (as in the video), in real life NASCAR, you would wind up going slow. I've been in many NASCAR races where I was 6 or 7 seconds behind the lead pack of 2 or 3, and when they start passing each other (toward the end of the race) they start slowing down and that is when I (the single car) was able to catch them.

The problem with passing is that while you gain momentum from the drafting, as soon as you pull out into clean air you immediately start to slow down, also you do a little scrubbing of the tires when you turn to get around the car in front that also slows you down, that's why it's so important to get a GOOOD run when passing the car. There are times when you can start the pass and be going really fast, but as soon as you pull out in clean air you slows down so much you can't even get around the car you were passing.

That's real life NASCAR, so now I'm wondering if it is the LFS physics that are off with regard to drafting? or is it just the GTR cars draft differently than a NASCAR car would

hmmm

I would think in some cases its the LFS physics combined with high pings and some peoples bad PC's that are running stupidly low frame rates , sometimes you can't even get within 1 metre of another racer without being hurled into oblivion ... so i think drafting very closely wouldn't be the same in LFS as it is in real life - also don't forget that LFS doesn't simulate wind speed (as far as i'm aware) i'm sure this must also have an affect in a real life race on an oval .

Maybe the tutorial is just purely based for online racing/drafting .

No bumping necessary, just stay as close as possible to car in front and in line.

On the faster speedways and superspeedways used by NASCAR, ARCA, and at one time the IROC series, two or more vehicles can race faster when lined up front-to-rear than a single car can race alone. The low-pressure wake behind a group's leading car reduces the aerodynamic resistance on the front of the trailing car allowing the second car to pull closer. As the second car nears the first it pushes high-pressure air forward so less fast-moving air hits the lead car's spoiler. The result is less drag for both cars, allowing faster speeds.[2]
Handling in corners is affected by balance changes caused by the draft: the leading car has normal front downforce but less rear downforce. The trailing car has less front downforce but normal rear downforce. A car with drafting partners both ahead and behind will lose downforce at both ends.[2]
Similar to the "Belgian tourniquet" in cycling, the "slingshot pass" is the most dramatic and widely noted maneuver associated with drafting. A trailing car (perhaps pushed by a line of drafting cars) uses the lead car's wake to pull up with maximum momentum at the end of a straightaway, enters a turn high, and turns down across the lead car's wake. The combination of running downhill and running across the zone of lowest aerodynamic drag allows the trailing car to carry extra speed and pass on the inside of the leader.[2]
Drafting was discovered by stock car racers in the 1959 Daytona 500. Drivers found they picked up speed running closely behind other cars, and as they experimented they found that a line of cars could sustain higher speeds than a single car running by itself.[2]

Didnt understand most of it but I got the jist I think

its ok...but there is a problem with bump drafting.
what about the engine cooling???
The second car doesn't get air to cooling water.

i think bump drafting work only a lap or max 2 lap( dont know), but not more, cos without fresh air, engine water will boil, then ...

i think bump drafting work only a lap or max 2 lap( dont know), but not more, cos without fresh air, engine water will boil, then

I think we hijacked this thread.

I started racing Nascar 2003 Season a few years ago.