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Please help me analyse myself
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| rageshgr | Date: Sunday, 2011-09-25, 6:07 PM | Message # 1 |
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| Hi,
Forgive me if I have posted this in the wrong section. I need a big help from you guys.
I have uploaded my AS3+FXR [AMG] PB here here http://www.filedropper.com/rag14315 (well my PB is actually 0.02 faster but I guess I didn't save it). I use a keyboard (Ks) to play.
Please watch from 10 min:35 sec where I start my hot-lap. My lap time is 1:43.15. Can you please tell me if and where I am making any particular mistakes and how to correct it so that I can be faster.
Some notes though:
At T1 I generally hit 170 kph (as opposed to this PB of 165 kph)
My TB is 45.46+57.28 = 1:42.74. But I am sure with some tips from great drivers like you I can hit low 1:42's. I have already watched some very fast (wheel as well as keyboard) replays by other drivers and learnt some tips. As far as practice goes, I have done 5108 online AS3+FXR laps.
I would be really grateful if you can watch the above replay and give some tips that you find.
Message edited by rageshgr - Monday, 2011-09-26, 2:56 PM |
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| Sin | Date: Sunday, 2011-09-25, 6:48 PM | Message # 2 |
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| Well i will take a look when i have a bit more time , but for now READ THIS ... it should help you no end 
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| rageshgr | Date: Sunday, 2011-09-25, 7:17 PM | Message # 3 |
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| Thanks a lot Sin, yes I have read that, and it had helped me too 
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| Osteri | Date: Monday, 2011-09-26, 4:15 PM | Message # 4 |
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| hmm...you turn too much a slight bend...speed go down...and you turn right or left all the time, straight sides...this my analysis...
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| rageshgr | Date: Monday, 2011-09-26, 4:36 PM | Message # 5 |
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| Thanks a lot Osteri. From your reply, I think it might help if I reduce my steer and return rate. Currently I have them at 0.79 and 0.41. I will try reducing it so that the bends are smoother. What do u think?
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| Sin | Date: Monday, 2011-09-26, 4:59 PM | Message # 6 |
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| Yes i agree with Osteri , after watching closely its going to be hard for you to achieve what you want as your always going to be held back by the Keyboard i'm afraid . like he said the key to being fast is first you have to be smooth , by doing this you will scrub off less speed ... the longer you can have the front wheels going in a straight line the faster you will be .
Having said that , getting a low 1:43.xx using a Keyboard is very good ... so well done for that . but i'm sure you can achieve your TB with a bit more practice .
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| rageshgr | Date: Monday, 2011-09-26, 5:09 PM | Message # 7 |
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| Thanks a lot Sin for your encouragement :), you telling me I am very good just made my day. I guess I am approaching as fast as keyboard gets, so it is gonna be more and more difficult to shave that extra few centiseconds. The HL WR for a keyboard is 1:41.92 which is gonna be a hill climb for me.
When I compared Turbo's lap and mine, I saw that I lost about 1 second in the short stretch between braking for the first hairpin and exiting the second hairpin. Anything I can do there?
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| Sin | Date: Monday, 2011-09-26, 6:10 PM | Message # 8 |
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| Quote (rageshgr) When I compared Turbo's lap and mine, I saw that I lost about 1 second in the short stretch between braking for the first hairpin and exiting the second hairpin. Anything I can do there?
That i'm afraid is mainly down to having a good wheel and putting in lots of practice so as to get the correct line , one thing i did notice is that you go slightly wide and turn in a bit late which loses you time ... when i'm next on i will try to show you what i mean .
Quote (rageshgr) you telling me I am very good just made my day.
There are many things that make a good driver , for me its not all about "super fast Alien times" ... but in your case to race as clean and fair as you do whilst using a Keyboard is most impressive ... especially as the grid sizes on our server can be 20+ racers , so yeah ... well done 
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| rageshgr | Date: Tuesday, 2011-09-27, 9:11 PM | Message # 9 |
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| Thanks Sin, I will work on the turn in bit. Yes driving clean and fair is more difficult than getting fast times I learnt. Man when I am in T1 I really get scared to not to run into people since it is difficult to make mid corner adjustments with keyboard.
Added (2011-09-27, 9:11 PM)
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I got my first sub 1:43 today. My LFSW PB is now 1:42.99 (45.49+57.50).
I also broke my sector times making my TB 1:42.65 (45.41 +57.24). Thanks for the help!. I am trying to break earlier and turn in earlier for the first hairpin.
Message edited by rageshgr - Wednesday, 2011-09-28, 11:59 PM |
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| Reflex | Date: Wednesday, 2011-09-28, 2:23 AM | Message # 10 |
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| Is there anyway you could get hold of a cheap gamepad with analogue buttons? In my early LFS days whilst on demo i could get quite close to the xfg WR with a wingman gamepad, & when i did eventually get a g25 it took me a week or so to beat my gamepad PB's.
Dont think i could make my front tyres last more than a lap with keyboard.
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| rageshgr | Date: Wednesday, 2011-09-28, 11:59 AM | Message # 11 |
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| Thanks for the suggestion dude. Well as a matter of fact I bought a wheel recently, but as you said I have been practising for 2 weeks (on and off), but my wheel times are 2 seconds slower than keyboard times. It could be due to the below reasons:
1. I need more practice to learn the wheel
2. It does not have force feed back so there is no much info to go by
3. It is a small 20 cm wheel with 270 deg turn (lock to lock)
Yest Sin suggested mouse may be a better option. So gonna try that
Quote (Reflex) Dont think i could make my front tyres last more than a lap with keyboard. smile
Well, for me its the other way round, i have no feedback in the dead center so I am almost never fully straight with the wheel, especially while braking hence I overheat the tires within 2 laps.
Message edited by rageshgr - Wednesday, 2011-09-28, 1:16 PM |
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| Reflex | Date: Wednesday, 2011-09-28, 1:32 PM | Message # 12 |
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| well 270% should be ok, if you use in 270% in prifiler & a little less in game it would make the wheel a little less sensitive as you start to turn in for corners & make sure wheel turn compensation slider is all the way to the right.
& if you make changes allways calibrate after.
Force feed back is important, but there are some alien drivers that turn it off.
From what i have read in forums mouse is quicker than keyboard, never tried it myself.
If the wheel is working properly, all that is need is lots of pratice.
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| rageshgr | Date: Saturday, 2011-10-01, 10:38 PM | Message # 13 |
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| Thanks Reflex, this wheel does not have a profiler software, so it is physically limited to 270 that's all. So I guess would be the same as setting 270 degrees in profiler. In game as of now I have made 270 now, I tried 220 after I read sins post, found it a little different, probably I will settle for somewhere between 220 and 270.
Yes not having force feedback is an issue now. I have to work around it somehow Added (2011-10-01, 10:38 PM)
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I got a 1:42.56 pb today! (In my team server but we too have tirewalls in the chicane).
Now my TB is 1:42.37 (45.31+57.06). I am inching towards Semi-Pro. Thanks for all the tips! and I guess practice really pays.
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